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threemeninaboat ([personal profile] threemeninaboat) wrote2015-10-24 08:59 am

Ongoing discussion

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2015/08/04/commentary/japan-commentary/kimono-cultural-appropriation#.ViubW24nQZx

"That message, recently iterated to me by an employee at the Nishijin Textiles Center in Kyoto, is this: Anyone can appropriate and creatively modify kimono styles whenever and however they like.

This message should be broadcast to counter those who misguidedly oppose the appropriation of Japan’s fashion traditions by “the West.” Japanese are not the West’s victims, and the kimono industry is ill-served by obsessions about Orientalism and politically correct “understanding.”

Kaori Nakano, a professor of fashion history at Meiji University put it to me this way: “Cultural appropriation is the beginning of new creativity. Even if it includes some misunderstanding, it creates something new.” It may be the key to the future of kimono fashion."

[identity profile] twissie.livejournal.com 2015-10-24 04:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Yaaaaas!

I've never been kimono shopping, but ... yeah. I feel the same way about the Norwegian traditional dresses, there's been huge discussions here on "CAN YOU WEAR A TRADITIONAL DRESS IF YOU'RE NOT NORWEGIAN???? IS IT OKAY FOR TOURISTS TO WEAR THEM???" and I'm just.... yes!! of course you can, what the hell is the problem? Let people add to the culture!

[identity profile] twoeleven.livejournal.com 2015-10-24 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Yay!

Tho it's sad that it needs to be said. I mean, what? I'm supposed to be deeply offened that goyim have culturally appropriated™ bagels?
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[identity profile] elusis.livejournal.com 2015-10-24 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I fear this is the kimono equivalent of "I asked my black friend and she said that's not racist at all." :-/

[identity profile] ilcylic.livejournal.com 2015-10-25 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
Wait. Someone didn't want to be a part of the Victim Industry? I AM SO CONFUSED!

[identity profile] altamira16.livejournal.com 2015-10-25 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the important part of this is that they are still buying the kimono fabric from Japanese people.

I don't see the increase of Indian motifs in fashion as appropriation. I see it as the people who are making the clothes are influencing our fashions in some ways.

[identity profile] sistawendy.livejournal.com 2015-10-26 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
Hooray for chill!

[identity profile] clevermanka.livejournal.com 2015-10-26 12:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel like there's a big difference between buying/wearing/incorporating kimono in fashion and dressing like this for Halloween.

[identity profile] malterre.livejournal.com 2015-10-26 02:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for sharing this! As someone who does not drink Guinness, green or otherwise.